The goal here was to help people with bricked Kindles. Why the Kindles are bricked really isn't important to this discussion.
But on that subject, there's a lot Amazon won't tell you in "Help" like, how to unbrick your Kindle. People come here to learn that. It's unfortunate, but true. How come you still haven't admitted that you are trying to help people who may have stolen property!
If Amazon has disabled a device, why in the world would the Help pages tell you how to undo it? Roger, people with stolen Kindles aren't hanging out here. Roger, have you figured out yet that nobody here agrees with you? The people posting here are long-time Kindle users. We are very experienced with the device, the Amazon environment, and we all know how to get apps from other places that meet our needs.
You are acting naively if you think that we're going to have a discussion with you about "just adding Google Play" and keeping all the other variables constant. Nobody here is going to engage you on that simplistic an argument.
This is also not a new discussion, it's been rehashed over and over again over the past few years. Frankly, I'm done, I have much better things to do. But you're no longer helping anyone, Roger. You're now standing on a soapbox pontificating. Do you seriously think that Amazon or any other tablet manufactuer should tell you how to unbrick a rooted device in their help pages?
King Al: No, I don't expect Amazon to tell you how to unbrick your device. It can be done quite easily, but to find out how, you'll have to reach out to sources outside Amazon.
Which is kind of what this thread is all about.. I'm not: I have no interest in helping people steal Kindles, or using ones that have been stolen. In my opinion only , more bricking occurs from reasons other than theft. If fact, I didn't even know that Amazon would do that. On the record: I'm not encouraging theft, or the use of stolen property, in any way. That thought never even occurred to me. Meya, I hope not. I'm certainly not interested in helping thieves, if they are.
In my opinion only , most bricking occurs for reasons other than theft. I'd like to be able to reach out to those folks, and assure them that their cause is far from lost.
Dietz, it's okay that no one agrees with me about Play Store. But that's not why I'm here. I'm here to let people know that a bricked Kindle isn't a doorstop. The whole Google Play Store thing came about when someone not me starting asking about why Kindles could be bricked.
Hey, it can't be that simplistic or naive. It's quite an open question, actually. Coleen, you're right. But I could be helping if we'd stick to the subject of the post, about bricked Kindles. I have a lot of experience worth sharing on that subject. If you ever find yourself with a bricked device, let me know, I can help.
You can find me pretty easily on gasp Google That may be your opinion, but the evidence we see here every day shows no support for that opinion. Francis, I came here unaware that bricking could occur from theft. My experience is that most bricks happen for other reasons, and I can help in those cases.
On the record: I'm not the least bit interested in helping anyone with a stolen device. Roger, the "regulars" on these forums insist on referring to Kindles that Amazon will not allow to be registered because they have been reported lost our stolen as "bricked.
Give it up. Coleen, would you believe I actually came here as a source of help, on bricked Kindles? Sure, you can buy another device if you want things a Kindle can't do.
But it's not hard to brick a Kindle in very legitimate ways. When that happens, it's nice to know that you can reach out and find help. If you can enhance your Kindle at the same time, then that's just lagniappe. King Al. No, I made no such implication. I don't think Amazon should be telling you how to recover a stolen device. Unbrick a Kindle, maybe, but not encouraging theft.
Most bricking occurs in my opinion and experience for reasons other than theft. Please name those other reasons. You keep alluding to them, but haven't mentioned them yet. King Al: I guess the question could be, why aren't Kindles sold as rooted devices in the first place? Pineapple, if you can count on one hand how many apps you got from Google Play, then you can see that at least some apps have to come from that source. I kind of think it's better to have an app you use rarely, than have a device that blocks even the installation of that app, unnecessarily.
Do you hang out on the Apple forums and say the same things? I'm still waiting for those other reasons for Fires being bricked.
Is there a reason you won't answer that question? King Al: I'm sure Amazon is trying to maximize profits, of course. I'm just pointing out that they're doing that at our expense in lost functionality. Hey, let's forget the Play Store and return to helping people with bricked Kindles. Meya: Sorry, I didn't realize you were asking why KFs are bricked. Most bricking occurs in my opinion because people try to root their devices, or add alternative operating systems.
They do this again, in my opinion to be able to access the Google architecture. Unfortunately, a lot of these well-meaning attempts go wrong, and the user ends up with a bricked KF. In those cases, they have difficulty recovering unless they know enough to ask for help. Those users have knowledge of where to go when they need that kind of help. They also would have a good understanding and comprehension that the Amazon Help Forums would not be the place to get help with rooting.
They will KNOW that Amazon doesn't support it, teach it, offer advice about it, or include the instructions for doing it, with the Fires. I don't really know why you would feel the need to be so long-winded about this topic.
Unless you're just bored or something. It really is odd Anastasia, the others don't agree with you. They say, in fact, that owners of Kindles being deliberately bricked by Amazon due to theft don't even frequent these forums. I suspect the 'regulars' are caught with bricked Kindles due to unsuccessful attempts to root or otherwise modify their devices.
Yes, we are discussing two different ways that Kindles can be bricked. But both ways have a common solution, one that's kind of useful to know. It just takes a couple of mouse clicks to unbrick a KF. I'm not a thief, myself, but that's been of a lot of use to me, and may be to you, someday. You state: "I suspect the 'regulars' are caught with bricked Kindles due to unsuccessful attempts to root or otherwise modify their devices.
Meya, Actually, I'm an online professor, waiting for spring semester to begin. I engage in dialog with students all the time this way. I'm just lonely between semesters. You can do what my students do, mostly: just don't read what I write Those are the people who DO show up here - the ones who have found, stolen or received stolen Kindles.
It's the ones who have bricked the Kindles themselves trying to root them who do not come here. That explains the condescension in your tone. You do realize most users here are not kids. Colleen, then we'd have to ask, why these 'regulars' are even in a thread about bricked Kindles in the first place? If they're happy with their Kindles the way they are, what drew them to a thread for people with bricked Kindles?
Francis: you're saying just the opposite of what the group is saying. Meya, I go to great lengths to avoid condescension in my tone. If you reread what I've written, you'll find not even a hint of irony, let alone an indication that I think you're kids.
Yes, I assume that most, if not all, of us are adults here. No, you're the one who isn't paying attention. It isn't necessarily the thief who comes here. It's the guy who bought a Kindle from Craig's List, or the kid who found one sitting in a laundromat. They are the ones who come here for help. Just because they have stolen units does not mean they are the ones who stole them.
The first post in this thread was made back in February, and it was deleted long ago. The first few replies were about why it could be bricked etc. Since the OP is gone, there no way to know what exactly the trouble was.
Those Fires can't be registered. They are blocked by Amazon when they are reported lost. They are usually novice users, who didn't know any better, and didn't know to protect themselves from lousy sellers. Those people, the ones who have been taken by a crook seller, should not be helped in rooting their stolen Fire. The very fact that they were naive enough to fall for the scam in the first place tells you that they won't have a clue about what you're talking about.
Okay all, I give up. I'm seriously trying to be helpful to users with bricked Kindles for whatever reason. I think it's useful for all KF owners to know that being bricked doesn't mean the Kindle is worthless, it's just not working at the moment for some reason and that reason has a simple solution. I really never intended to get into the question of theft, or Play Store.
But we can't deny that the allure of Google architecture causes at least some, if not most, bricking. In fact, it's kind of hard to discuss bricking without, at some point, touching on the reason for the bricking. For the thieves and people who were duped out there, don't ask for help. For those who don't have a clue, maybe having a clue isn't such a bad thing?
You could spend some time reading and really listening to what we're trying to tell you. It really comes across as if you either can't, or you just refuse to. For the most part, Techies are not posting here, except to help other users. Spend 3 days just reading the questions that people post. Then, you may "get it. Meya, the lead question in this thread is "How can I fix a bricked Kindle?
That's all I have. Everything else is superfluous to the original question. It's the Kindle Fire. My issue is that I have to take steps to add this myself. I kind of feel like I'm doing Amazon's job for them. As many people have explained, it's not Amazon's job to direct customers towards a competitor.
Roger, The original post was on Feb. Disclaimer: Please note that neither we nor developer should be held responsible for any damage happened to your device which is a very unlikely event further as the Kindle Fire on which you will be applying this firmware is already in the non-working condition.
The tool which we will be using is called as the Kindle Unbrick Utility V0. In the coming days a new version will be rolled out by the developer as soon as new issues are reported which you can report in the comments section below. Please note that just in case if you face any issues in the process of un bricking then report the same in the comments section.
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